POLELANE
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one time costs; year after year after year...
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DFleming
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I'm surprised that they don't have a hybrid version of their F-Series pickup truck ready to roll out. It's been their best selling vehicle for years. The only thing that could have dethrone that was higher gas prices. It's surprising to me that they didn't think about protecting their star seller.
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Don20
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When they build vehicles that people want, instead of tell us what we want. They may make a profit.. Pickup and big vehicles are history unless you have a business.
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jeepster23
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Boy if they didn't see this coming, they should get jobs washing dishes.
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goose28in
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Ford will be retooling one of their Michigan plants from the Exploder to smaller Europenan vehicles, 5 models that will be sold here in the states.
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Shiff
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Ford has always tried to sell larsger cars and trucks and refused to accept the fact that the market has changed.
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maddie01
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consumers change their minds faster than Detroit can change
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bauerboy
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Ford posted bigger losses than analysts expected. No one buying their bigger cars and they didn't plan well enough ahead.
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Phantomwalker
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The big guys have to realize that as long as they make less efficent vechiles that it will hurt their bottom line.
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AuburnTim
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Won't be long till Ford and GM ask the government for a bail out. We need to let these companies reap what they sow. If they were dumb enough not to make cars that people wanted and that got better fuel mileage then they deserve what they get. To bad their employees are the ones that will pay the biggest price by losing their jobs. I say enough is enough mandatory 50mpg or more should be forced on all new cars, trucks made as of today. Just wonder how much less Ford and GM's executives are losing out of their wallets....I bet nothing!
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EarlyMoose
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let the market decide what the consumers want.
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Howmuchtofillit
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Well keep building those Big SUVs. Maybe you will learn, but I don't think so.
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HockeyLady
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It will be intereting now to see how all car manufacturers adjust. I do want Ford to succeed!
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UTOrangeMan
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Wow. I bought a Honda after owning 7 Fords over the last 32 years.
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RC_RACER
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thats what you get for taking money to supress high milage vehicles. I rally feel sorry for the car company's.. NOT
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JB1881
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maybe they need to look at hybrids?
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woos777
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Very few people aren't foiled by high gas prices.
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PokerAce
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roadkillGA..... I'll bet ol Ben could sell just about anything.... amusing image though..... good thing Ford did well on revamping the Mustang or they'd really be in the muck.....
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Wolfwings
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Call me stupid, but, as I remember it, all the car makers were paying big bucks to PACs to put off the LAW about cutting back on gasoline usage. Now they will want goverment assistance to help them in their time of loss.
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Chazzer
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Of course they were foiled ... just like all of the other car makers were!
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bluebird1
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Lack of foresight...or even common sense lead to this with NA manuf.
Already announced this morning...caught it on TV & believe they said 6 billion
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Dale Jr.
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Oh no. What to do.
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Lonewolftx
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And so it goes . . .
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tbybee
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Diversification is a good idea in all things including product offerings.
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SlugBuggy
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Yeah, I can't say I'm overly saddened at the loss of the SUVs. They were a bad idea to begin with and it's only the rising costs of fuel that have convinced folks of that.
[Edited by: SlugBuggy at 7/24/2008 10:20:47 AM EST]
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siouxbear
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we all are in this together! we need to get more productive
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roadkillGA
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We have thrown more gas away than the Exxon spill a few years back by being exolited by sales and enjoying Navigators, Excursions, Hummers and the like. If you NEED a truck for business its one thing but we have gotten into the belief that car and truck sales were in the Constitution..can you see ben Franklin selling F-1500"s
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kevski
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bummer
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BrianGriffin
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Boo hoo
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tz2001
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Bye, Bye SUVs. Good Riddance.
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eaglev
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The Unions have pushed the pay and benefits so high that it is hard for them to make a profit.
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FizedNH
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Gotta go with low gas consumption models...
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SeerLV
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Ford and the others made too much money on the gas guzzlers. Now they are paying the price for lack of future planning.
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tomok
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The big 3 - For, GM, and Chrysler.
Produce more fuel efficient vehicles (high MPG) and reliable ones too. And maybe, just maybe they can enjoy high profits too...
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SpruceGuse2
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Good for the Stock Market.
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amacquarrie
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maybe they should be more proactive and come up with a non gas guzzling truck.
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t4204life
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everybody but the oil companies,is struggling to make a profit.
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good2goVA
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The American companies enjoyed gas guzzlers and now it is biting them at the bottom line. Unfortunately, Toyota and Honda are leading the pack and not the American companies. Hopefully soon that will turn around but some major changes need to occur and occur pretty quickly for that to happen.
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Somis1
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It could be worse for Mulally--at least he's not running an airline.
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mikespipe
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ford was derailed by living in the past. never thinking that gas would rise in cost despite all the signs around the world . when it happened in the 70's they where just as surprised. but did not take in the lesson. with the rise in gas costs there are an abundance of good underused over accessorised trucks out there for sale as used. this will affect sales for years. better more energy efficient vehicle are the only thing that will bring them back to profitability. Will they do it ?
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R1Zak
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Companies like Ford have always been more concerned with profit than product. The F150 was the best selling vehicle because of incentives. Ford's parts also maybe the most expensive in the business, excluding high end manufacturers. In the end like any business Ford has always been about profit. Even at the cost of their reputation. Don't expect ford to lead the way on anything. GM has always been the one of the big three to do that.
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Brn2bEvl
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How the mighty have fallen.
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RickPenn
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Announced this morning. 6.? billion dollar loss last quarter.
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Dennis783
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Too bad for Ford. Better respond quicker in the future
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Egaser
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Their road is a very long One.
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no1lakersfam
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Why aren't they working on developing more hybrid vehicles? I only know of one that they offer right now, and if they offered it in smaller cars, I think they would be able to help themselves out of the hole they are in.
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tobasco
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But an F-150 is cheap now.
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emosley007
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i agree ford needs to get greener but they will be alright. plus ford has started to make better cars to compete with the foreign automakers.
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rbdesigns
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I don't care directly about the company, but it worries me about the employees. They need to go smaller and do it quickly.
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lazycar
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Guess they need to import more Fords made in Europe & Brazil! Or just make those types of Fords here! Like the Focus came from Ford of Germany.
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